Comments on: Why Is The Power Steering Making Noise on My Subaru Outback? http://allwheeldriveauto.com/why-is-the-power-steering-making-noise-on-my-subaru-outback/ Mon, 06 Feb 2012 20:36:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Justin Stobb http://allwheeldriveauto.com/why-is-the-power-steering-making-noise-on-my-subaru-outback/#comment-100059 Justin Stobb Mon, 06 Feb 2012 20:19:15 +0000 http://allwheeldriveauto.com/why-is-the-power-steering-making-noise-on-my-subaru-outback/#comment-100059 Glad I could have helped Glad I could have helped

]]> By: Noob looking for advice on Power Steering noise - Subaru Outback - Subaru Outback Forums http://allwheeldriveauto.com/why-is-the-power-steering-making-noise-on-my-subaru-outback/#comment-99999 Noob looking for advice on Power Steering noise - Subaru Outback - Subaru Outback Forums Mon, 06 Feb 2012 01:32:14 +0000 http://allwheeldriveauto.com/why-is-the-power-steering-making-noise-on-my-subaru-outback/#comment-99999 [...] noise when she turns the wheel trying to maneuver when the car is cold. I tried this fix: Why Is The Power Steering Making Noise on My Subaru Outback? - Seattle Subaru Repair but nothing changed. Even with that bracket off it still made noise. I can see the PS pulley slow [...] [...] noise when she turns the wheel trying to maneuver when the car is cold. I tried this fix: Why Is The Power Steering Making Noise on My Subaru Outback? – Seattle Subaru Repair but nothing changed. Even with that bracket off it still made noise. I can see the PS pulley slow [...]

]]> By: Mark http://allwheeldriveauto.com/why-is-the-power-steering-making-noise-on-my-subaru-outback/#comment-99826 Mark Fri, 03 Feb 2012 03:45:48 +0000 http://allwheeldriveauto.com/why-is-the-power-steering-making-noise-on-my-subaru-outback/#comment-99826 Justin, I saw this today and had the same exact problem onmy car after a timing belt service. The mechanic said I needed to get a new pump. I did the work and it worked! You are the man, thank you!!! Mark Justin,

I saw this today and had the same exact problem onmy car after a timing belt service. The mechanic said I needed to get a new pump.
I did the work and it worked!
You are the man, thank you!!!

Mark

]]> By: Justin Stobb http://allwheeldriveauto.com/why-is-the-power-steering-making-noise-on-my-subaru-outback/#comment-99668 Justin Stobb Tue, 31 Jan 2012 21:22:43 +0000 http://allwheeldriveauto.com/why-is-the-power-steering-making-noise-on-my-subaru-outback/#comment-99668 Hello Barb, Sounds rough! Even the best of Techs can have a bad day, sounds like that may have been the initial issue, and maybe the shop owner or manager wasn't aware of the whole set of circumstances. Any good shop can have a bad egg also, if the shop truly had to fire a tech he was probably having a lot of comebacks this can be because of a new hire or a long term guy with some new personal problems, I have seen it both ways its awful for everyone involved especially you! I don't know any of this to be the case, just some possibilities. I will point out that the alternator is a common issue with the 1996 to 1999 Outback if that helps, Subaru has a reman component for $82.00 which is really inexpensive for a reman alternator from an O.E. , that is Subarus way of saying were sorry. To the rest, the timing belt installed one tooth off on a DOHC 2.5l will cause it to run poorly but wont damage the valves and yes it should have been caught before you were given the car back or the first trip back at the worst. The plug wire popping off thing while unfortunate can happen, and yes it means it wasnt installed properly or the wire is not fitting well anymore. The mass air flow sensor is pretty sensitive to vibration on that era Subaru and it could be that multiple removal of the air box and thus the mass air flow sensor may have accelerated the decay of the heated wire in the sensor. This is a tough one because we do replace e few of these with out someone doing any damage to it. I am sorry for the trouble you have had and hope that after the current situation is resolved you fair better, I would add that it may be a good time to seek out a good Subaru shop for any future issues and maybe have the entire repair you have had done evaluated before the warranty expires. Hope that helps Justin Hello Barb,

Sounds rough!

Even the best of Techs can have a bad day, sounds like that may have been the initial issue, and maybe the shop owner or manager wasn’t aware of the whole set of circumstances. Any good shop can have a bad egg also, if the shop truly had to fire a tech he was probably having a lot of comebacks this can be because of a new hire or a long term guy with some new personal problems, I have seen it both ways its awful for everyone involved especially you!

I don’t know any of this to be the case, just some possibilities.

I will point out that the alternator is a common issue with the 1996 to 1999 Outback if that helps, Subaru has a reman component for $82.00 which is really inexpensive for a reman alternator from an O.E. , that is Subarus way of saying were sorry.

To the rest, the timing belt installed one tooth off on a DOHC 2.5l will cause it to run poorly but wont damage the valves and yes it should have been caught before you were given the car back or the first trip back at the worst.

The plug wire popping off thing while unfortunate can happen, and yes it means it wasnt installed properly or the wire is not fitting well anymore.

The mass air flow sensor is pretty sensitive to vibration on that era Subaru and it could be that multiple removal of the air box and thus the mass air flow sensor may have accelerated the decay of the heated wire in the sensor. This is a tough one because we do replace e few of these with out someone doing any damage to it.

I am sorry for the trouble you have had and hope that after the current situation is resolved you fair better, I would add that it may be a good time to seek out a good Subaru shop for any future issues and maybe have the entire repair you have had done evaluated before the warranty expires.

Hope that helps

Justin

]]> By: Barb http://allwheeldriveauto.com/why-is-the-power-steering-making-noise-on-my-subaru-outback/#comment-99658 Barb Tue, 31 Jan 2012 18:41:54 +0000 http://allwheeldriveauto.com/why-is-the-power-steering-making-noise-on-my-subaru-outback/#comment-99658 it sounds like you are a wealth of information and I really need some advise. We have a 99 Outback with approx 140k on it. We have owned it for 7 years and it's been a great car. Recently we just put over 3k into it with a new clutch and had it torn apart to fix all the oil leaks. The shop was supposedly very familiar with Subaru's (NOT AT ALL) and they have royally messed our beloved car up. Just after getting it back it was running horrible, making an awful noise from the drive shaft, idling rough etc. and still tons of oil leaks, more than when we brought it in. We were told to drive it for a couple weeks, that the new timing belt had to stretch out a bit to run good, LOL!! After bringing it back the first time found out they stripped a belt in the drive shaft, fixed that, but after getting back still running terrible. Long story short after bringing it back in 4 more times, still leaking oil, idling rough etc. found out they put the old timing belt back on and it was off by 1 tooth. So now we found out we had been lied to and just plain screwed on the original service that was done. They replaced the timing belt, and after getting it back it was running ok but after bringing it to a tire shop to get balance done, mechanic pointed out that they left 2 bolts off the timing belt cover and there are still multiple oil leaks. Now we are getting pretty ticked with this shop but they say they fired the original mechanic and want to make it right. We bring it back and make them go over the entire car. Leaks seem fixed, car running good for about a week. Last week had to be towed in, check engine light comes on, car bucking stalling etc. Found spark plug wire popped off?? Pretty strange right? Drove it for 2 more days and only made it a block and car started bucking very severely and stalling and would not go more than about 5 mph, limped back home and called a tow truck to take to Subaru dealer. Took them some time to get it to stall and buck again but they think it is the mass air flow sensor. Could any other damage have been done by these idiots that did all this work? Valves or any other major damage? $3000 original job was for clutch, valve cover gasket set, belts, oil change, camshaft seal, input shaft, alternator(which we don't think it really needed) it sounds like you are a wealth of information and I really need some advise. We have a 99 Outback with approx 140k on it. We have owned it for 7 years and it’s been a great car. Recently we just put over 3k into it with a new clutch and had it torn apart to fix all the oil leaks. The shop was supposedly very familiar with Subaru’s (NOT AT ALL) and they have royally messed our beloved car up. Just after getting it back it was running horrible, making an awful noise from the drive shaft, idling rough etc. and still tons of oil leaks, more than when we brought it in. We were told to drive it for a couple weeks, that the new timing belt had to stretch out a bit to run good, LOL!! After bringing it back the first time found out they stripped a belt in the drive shaft, fixed that, but after getting back still running terrible. Long story short after bringing it back in 4 more times, still leaking oil, idling rough etc. found out they put the old timing belt back on and it was off by 1 tooth. So now we found out we had been lied to and just plain screwed on the original service that was done. They replaced the timing belt, and after getting it back it was running ok but after bringing it to a tire shop to get balance done, mechanic pointed out that they left 2 bolts off the timing belt cover and there are still multiple oil leaks. Now we are getting pretty ticked with this shop but they say they fired the original mechanic and want to make it right. We bring it back and make them go over the entire car. Leaks seem fixed, car running good for about a week. Last week had to be towed in, check engine light comes on, car bucking stalling etc. Found spark plug wire popped off?? Pretty strange right? Drove it for 2 more days and only made it a block and car started bucking very severely and stalling and would not go more than about 5 mph, limped back home and called a tow truck to take to Subaru dealer. Took them some time to get it to stall and buck again but they think it is the mass air flow sensor. Could any other damage have been done by these idiots that did all this work? Valves or any other major damage? $3000 original job was for clutch, valve cover gasket set, belts, oil change, camshaft seal, input shaft, alternator(which we don’t think it really needed)

]]> By: Martin http://allwheeldriveauto.com/why-is-the-power-steering-making-noise-on-my-subaru-outback/#comment-99327 Martin Fri, 27 Jan 2012 14:40:44 +0000 http://allwheeldriveauto.com/why-is-the-power-steering-making-noise-on-my-subaru-outback/#comment-99327 Hi Justin and AllWheelDriveAuto I have the same problem as adressed earlier in this thread. I drive a ´01 2,5 Outback Limited. Symptom: Noise from the power steering pump that excel´s when turning the wheel while the motor is idling. Do you have the spare-part number for the two o-rings on the return line from the power steering housing? I would like to look into the possibilities of getting the set of rings over here (Denmark). Thank you Hi Justin and AllWheelDriveAuto

I have the same problem as adressed earlier in this thread.
I drive a ´01 2,5 Outback Limited.
Symptom: Noise from the power steering pump that excel´s when turning the wheel while the motor is idling.
Do you have the spare-part number for the two o-rings on the return line from the power steering housing?
I would like to look into the possibilities of getting the set of rings over here (Denmark).

Thank you

]]> By: Justin Stobb http://allwheeldriveauto.com/why-is-the-power-steering-making-noise-on-my-subaru-outback/#comment-96084 Justin Stobb Tue, 17 Jan 2012 17:02:20 +0000 http://allwheeldriveauto.com/why-is-the-power-steering-making-noise-on-my-subaru-outback/#comment-96084 Hi Mark, Was the power steering fluid ever changed? It should have been at 60k. I have yet to see a $2200.00 repair bill for a Subaru for the power steering system. I am not saying its not possible just letting you know its not a wide spread issue regardless of what the service advisor at the Dealer told you. Toyota Owns 20% of Subaru so you are already a loyal Toyota owner, Subaru builds many Toyota Camry's by the way, and lastly the power steering components in the Subaru Are exactly the same as many offered in the Toyota, Honda and Nissan lines. Look closely at the pump and rack and you will see the vendors for Subaru on the components, all who also make parts for the other Japanese Auto makes as well. Every time someone puts money in their car its the biggest junk pile ever made, and they move on to the next junk pile that needs work later in life as well. Its what the industry wants "you buying another car". Toyota is in court right now as we speak blaming the drivers for the sudden vehicle acceleration problem that has caused many accidents and some deaths and that's the company you gravitate to? Justin Hi Mark,

Was the power steering fluid ever changed? It should have been at 60k. I have yet to see a $2200.00 repair bill for a Subaru for the power steering system. I am not saying its not possible just letting you know its not a wide spread issue regardless of what the service advisor at the Dealer told you.

Toyota Owns 20% of Subaru so you are already a loyal Toyota owner, Subaru builds many Toyota Camry’s by the way, and lastly the power steering components in the Subaru Are exactly the same as many offered in the Toyota, Honda and Nissan lines. Look closely at the pump and rack and you will see the vendors for Subaru on the components, all who also make parts for the other Japanese Auto makes as well.

Every time someone puts money in their car its the biggest junk pile ever made, and they move on to the next junk pile that needs work later in life as well. Its what the industry wants “you buying another car”.

Toyota is in court right now as we speak blaming the drivers for the sudden vehicle acceleration problem that has caused many accidents and some deaths and that’s the company you gravitate to?

Justin

]]> By: Mark http://allwheeldriveauto.com/why-is-the-power-steering-making-noise-on-my-subaru-outback/#comment-94635 Mark Thu, 12 Jan 2012 14:34:58 +0000 http://allwheeldriveauto.com/why-is-the-power-steering-making-noise-on-my-subaru-outback/#comment-94635 My 2008 Outback 3.0 LL Bean w/ 67k miles suddenly started squealing. (I thought it was a bad bearing in the alternator.) There were no prior belt replacements or other work that could have contributed to the issue. The car is not driven off road or aggressively. Brought the car to a Subaru dealer who diagnosed metal shavings in the power steering system that ruined the pump, which in turn caused damage to the rack. After replacing all parts, flushing the system, etc., the cost for repair is $2,200 ! ! ! Mechanic says they have seen this issue before across all model lines, but are not aware of the root cause. As an engineer, it sounds like poor manufacture, fit, or design – all should be readily correctable by Subaru if, in fact, they have an intermittent history of this issue. They may not know the cause, but the effect is that I will become a loyal Toyota owner! My wife and I owned four of those without a single major failure; and we drive our cars an average of 10 years (minimum150k miles) before replacing. This was our second Subaru. Ouch. My 2008 Outback 3.0 LL Bean w/ 67k miles suddenly started squealing. (I thought it was a bad bearing in the alternator.) There were no prior belt replacements or other work that could have contributed to the issue. The car is not driven off road or aggressively. Brought the car to a Subaru dealer who diagnosed metal shavings in the power steering system that ruined the pump, which in turn caused damage to the rack. After replacing all parts, flushing the system, etc., the cost for repair is $2,200 ! ! ! Mechanic says they have seen this issue before across all model lines, but are not aware of the root cause. As an engineer, it sounds like poor manufacture, fit, or design – all should be readily correctable by Subaru if, in fact, they have an intermittent history of this issue. They may not know the cause, but the effect is that I will become a loyal Toyota owner! My wife and I owned four of those without a single major failure; and we drive our cars an average of 10 years (minimum150k miles) before replacing. This was our second Subaru. Ouch.

]]> By: Kaylin Lindell http://allwheeldriveauto.com/why-is-the-power-steering-making-noise-on-my-subaru-outback/#comment-94210 Kaylin Lindell Wed, 11 Jan 2012 00:14:43 +0000 http://allwheeldriveauto.com/why-is-the-power-steering-making-noise-on-my-subaru-outback/#comment-94210 I think this is a real great blog. I think this is a real great blog.

]]> By: Justin Stobb http://allwheeldriveauto.com/why-is-the-power-steering-making-noise-on-my-subaru-outback/#comment-92408 Justin Stobb Wed, 04 Jan 2012 21:14:21 +0000 http://allwheeldriveauto.com/why-is-the-power-steering-making-noise-on-my-subaru-outback/#comment-92408 Well it would be better if it had a bolt, the bolt is also specific to that location meaning you would have to source it out at Subaru. Justin Well it would be better if it had a bolt, the bolt is also specific to that location meaning you would have to source it out at Subaru.

Justin

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